2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby tacitus » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:44 am

Ya gotta get off the word ranked, dadgummit. High quality, not necessarily ranked teams, and not littered with multiple sub 200RPI teams.

Agree that there are many quality teams that are not ranked, and often ranked teams that are not quality, especially early in the season. In fact, there are many very solid teams that are never ranked at any point during the season. Playing such teams would certainly help the team improve. But from the perspective of getting an at-large bid, playing ranked teams absolutely matters. It also matters from the perspective of national exposure and recruiting.

Agreed, but once again, I said Steele’s NC schedule has been Cronin like during his UC days. CM’s also left something to be desired, but was still more competitive than Steele’s. Also, the BE was considerably better top to bottom in the preceding years before Steele took over, so a less challenging NC schedule was more forgivable during tourney time.

Looking at the data, I do not see much of a difference at all between Mack's and Steele's NC schedules. You are right that the big difference is that in the last few years the Big East has underperformed, especially in-terms of bids. However, I would argue that if you look at the data, at least half of the inconsistency comes from the Selection Committee, rather than the Big East. We were still consistently one of the best leagues, but for some reason they decided that .500 in one of the best leagues with strong NC performances was no longer enough. For instance, I still think we got robbed in 2019, given how strongly we finished. And the whole league got robbed in 2020, albeit by Corona Virus. I agree it is wise to not overload on cupcakes in the event that a) the Big East underperforms or b) we struggle during the conference season. However, I still think it is very clear that the NC schedule this year is our best ever. That was the whole point of this thread and my initial reply.

Once again, you keep changing the argument. Being one of the best leagues doesn’t necessarily equate to parity. After the top three or four teams in the BE during Steele’s tenure, I believe the drop off has been pretty significant

Parity is a moot point unless you are playing in one of the best leagues.

Of course they do, but they also often have four or more teams with top 6-7 seeds in the tourney, and 2-4 more teams in the tourney

Not according to the NCAA's own metrics. According to the NCAA's own metrics, we are consistently a top-4 league with the most parity. If you do not agree with the NCAA's metrics, that is fine. But it is not fine if the Selection Committee doesn't.

During Steele's tenure?

In 2020 we were the best league according to both NET and RPI. The weakest team according to NET was Depaul at 86. Had there been a tournament, we would have easily had 5 bids, and likely 6 or 7. Xavier was a bubble team at 8-10 in the conference and 19 wins overall. But looking at the other bubble teams that year, I really think we should have been in. Unfortunately, for us (and Steele's career), we will never know...

Source: https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/ ... e/Big-East

Rinse-repeat. My posts which you took great umbrage with, refer to X during Steele’s era. I suppose we’ll just not see eye to eye which is ok, but I prefer X’s performance during CM’s time in the BE over Steele’s. Hopefully, this year will be different.

I absolutely prefer the Mack years, too! I couldn't believe all the people who criticized Mack when he was at X. I would have to dig up the post, but I said repeatedly if Mack left, then it would take us 5-10 years to get back to where we were. The fact that he was from Cincinnati and an X grad, him leaving sent a clear message to coaches and recruits that we are a stepping stone. Steele has had some bad luck. He had two bubble teams, one that was left out by the committee and one that was left out by Covid. Also last year Covid took its toll on the team. Unfortunately it is this year or never. But given the NC schedule that we have plus all the opportunities we will have in the Big East, I think he can save his job this year!
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby muskieman » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:51 am

X is 5-1 here is what is left of the OOC schedule


December 1, 2021 (Wednesday) Home Central Michigan
December 5, 2021 (Sunday) TBD Away Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. BIG EAST-Big 12 Battle
December 8, 2021 (Wednesday) TBD Home Ball State
December 11, 2021 (Saturday) Cincinnati Cintas Center Skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout
December 15, 2021 (Wednesday) TBD Home Morehead State
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby longliveskip » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:21 am

Ball State - looks like another CMU type of game. they don't look good, based on a quick look at their schedule/results. that's ok. nice little "practice" to tune up for Saturday.
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby X-lucidity » Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:05 pm

Careful Skip, I'm sure that's what the FL fans thought about lowly TX Southern.....
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby longliveskip » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:46 am

X-lucidity wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:05 pm
Careful Skip, I'm sure that's what the FL fans thought about lowly TX Southern.....
yeah, but we aren't in the Top 25 right now, so not as much pressure as FL. ;)
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby Xavier2005 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:30 pm

the coronavirus may take care of March Madness....sad to say.
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby muskieman » Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:01 am

too much testing and false positives will be undoing of this country
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby Jesseandrippers » Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:27 pm

muskieman wrote:
Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:01 am
too much testing and false positives will be undoing of this country
What are you talking about? Too many false positives? There are very few false positives. Just because you have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic doesnt mean you dont have and cannot transmit the virus. Testing has probably saved many lives. Sorry if it inconveniencing your college basketball viewing pleasure.
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby muskieman » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:23 am

Sorry Jessie but within my family of about fifth or so people we have seen many false positives an d some of the family are teachers and doctors who also mention false positives as existing
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Re: 2021-22 schedule for 2021-22

Postby X-lucidity » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:45 am

agree w/ MM. It was 15 days of lockdown to "flatten the curve". That was over 18 months ago. Uh, we flattened the curve. Now look where we have devolved to, with no end in sight. And don't get me started about "saving lives" Ivermectin especially, and to a slightly lessor extent hydroxychloroquine, have proven in field test situations all over the world to significantly reduce hospitalizations by 30% to 60%. Yet in the US, you have to go to court and have a favorable judge to mandate a prescription. (unless you are rich or famous) Even though neither drug has shown to have any serious side effects if taken properly and both are FDA approved for their initial intended usage. Young folks in decent shape or better have almost a zero chance of dying from this. (sort of like the flu, which we no longer freak about) Plus our Fed Gov sends out no instructions on how to prep yourself by initiating a regimen of Vit C. D. A. B-12, Zinc combined with quercetin. No sir, our apparent glorious strategy is, if you get COVID, "lay in bed at home and pray, then go to the hospital to be intubated if you can't fight it off. Gee, that's terrific. I have heard now of two new therapeutics, one from Merck and the other from I believe Pfizer, that each showed over a 78% reduction in hospitalizations if taken within the 1st 3 days of infection. Merck announced their study results over a month ago and Pfizer over two weeks ago. Then silence, nothing..? Hey Biden, how about some "warp speed" action on those!? No, I am sorry, but I have had it also. There is definitely a global push by a certain contingent of powerful folks aligned with certain politicians to now milk this crap. They are high on power & control and want vote by mail 4-eva & drop boxes. As Bill Murray says beautifully in Stripes, "That's a fact Jack". Enough......... If you are high risk, get the vaccine & boosters, wear a mask 24/7 and stay secluded. If you are anybody, and feel you need to or want to, get the vaccine & boosters and mask away. It's a free country, but Florida is showing us the way, and it ain't living in fear the next decade. Sorry to vent, but always remember, whenever you voluntarily give up any freedoms to a government it will be three times as hard to get them back. Now let's go kick Jay Wright's ass.

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